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> US aggression towards Russia

Name this "act of aggression".

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Let's see,

1997 Russia-NATO founding act.

Putin in 2002 on Ukraine-NATO relations: "I am absolutely convinced that Ukraine will not shy away from the processes of expanding interaction with NATO and the Western allies as a whole. Ukraine has its own relations with NATO; there is the Ukraine-NATO Council. At the end of the day the decision is to be taken by NATO and Ukraine. It is a matter for those two partners." http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/21598

NATO chief Robertson on Putin: "at no point did he raise in a negative way the enlargement of NATO".

2001: GW Bush welcomes Putin to the White House, cooperation established in the war on terror. Russia aids US invasion of Afghanistan.

2008: Obama runs on "Russia is not our enemy", does the "Russian reset" policy, tells Medvedev he will continue cooperating with Russia.

2014: Russia invades Crimea and Donbass with rebels. US response is light sanctions and non-lethal aid to Ukraine. Poroshenko to US congress: "We can't defeat Russia with blankets"

2016: Trump runs on "Russia is our friend, I get along with Putin". Trump was the most pro-Putin president, continues to supply Ukraine with only non-lethal aid, javelins were "not to be used in the conflict zone".

Ukraine is still not a member of NATO to this day.

None of that is "aggression". The only aggression here is from Russia against Ukraine.

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Nothing you mentioned was aggression. Not taking Ukraine's NATO membership off the table is not aggression. Putin himself said he expected Ukraine to grow closer to NATO and didn't disapprove in 2002. I showed that consecutive US governments had been very soft on Russia, even cooperating with Russia (Bush, Obama's Russian reset, Trump's pro-Putinism). So the suggestion that the US was bullying Russia around for the past 20 years is nonsense.

The only aggression that we see in this situation is Russia against Ukraine.

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